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Nov 26 2007

Another 7-Point System make-over

Posted by jeff in Image Processing, Photoshop, Uncategorized, tags: ,

Over the weekend I posted a before and after image I processed using the 7-Point system for Photoshop (patent pending)  I pulled this image from the archives and re-processed it using the 7-Point workflow process.  It came a long way in a short time.  What do you think?

Before and after image from DC shoot

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  1. mike meyer says:
    November 26, 2007 at 7:33 am

    It seems I must have missed the “Turn water to Glass” filter, in the Filter Menu. The sky really needs a rainbow too! Anyway I hope you didn’t eat too much turkey :)

    mike meyer

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  2. Alex says:
    November 26, 2007 at 8:43 am

    Well, the better would be to use a ND graduate filter (to compensate the expose difference between the upper and the lower) or shot 2 or 3 different exposes and post-process it into an HDR application. But, the job done here was very good.

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  3. jeff says:
    November 26, 2007 at 8:58 am

    Alex,
    You are right about the graduated filter. The problem is I never seem to have one with me when I need one. The HDR issue was something I considered although from where I was standing, the use of tripods was prohibited. The Park Police won’t let you set one up on monument grounds unless you have a permit, which I didn’t.

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  4. John T. says:
    November 26, 2007 at 9:48 am

    I’m quite impressed with the before and after difference in the two shots. They have convinced me to go and order the 7-Point system book. I’ve only been visiting your blog for a short time, I heard about it on Photoshop TV, and I’ve been finding it very informative. It’s inspired me to start my own photo blog.

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  5. C.T. says:
    November 26, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Using Scott’s 7-point system, I’ve done something similar. I didn’t have my ND filter with me on a shoot. Would you agree that exposing for the sky makes it easier to open up the foreground later in Photoshop?

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  6. jeff says:
    November 26, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    C.T. -
    I think it would depend on the tonal range between the sky and the foreground. You could expose completely for the sky but you run the risk of not having any detail in the darker foreground areas. I find that it is easier to darken up a sky in post-processing and have detail in the shadows, otherwise you will be left with under-exposed noise that may not be fixable.

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  7. Roger says:
    November 30, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Jeff – Really awesome stuff. I recognize the water effect from Lesson 4 in the book. I’m currently STUCK in this lesson. I cannot figure out how to use the magnetic lasso tool to complete the selection of the lake in the picture. I don’t know how to add and subtract from the selection properly. Scott assumes you know how to use this tool, and I just don’t (new to PS-CS3). Can anyone please point me to a good tutorial or podcast on exactly how to use this tool to make this selection? I just bought and received a new Intuos 3 – 6 X 11 tablet and figures this might improve my accuracy. Thanks for any and all help provided.

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  8. jeff says:
    November 30, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Roger, use the magnetic tool to get a rough selection and then use the lasso tool to refine it. To add to the selection with the lasso, hold down the shift key while drawing. You should see a little plus sign pop up next to your cursor. To subtract, hold down the alt key. You will see a minus sign next to the cursor. The shift and alt keys work with all of the selection tools, including the new Quick Selection tool. You will find it is next to impossible to work in Photoshop without invoking some keyboard shortcuts/commands. I think once you get used to the tablet, you will really like it so don’t get discouraged if it feels a little awkward at first. One question for you, are you a NAPP member? The reason I ask is that on the member website they have a HELP center that is full of short video clips to answer questions like the one you just asked me. If you aren’t yet a member, you should look into it. The magazine alone is worth the money. The web address is http://www.photoshopuser.com/

    Jeff

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  9. Roger Tregelles says:
    December 2, 2007 at 11:31 am

    Jeff – Thanks so much for getting back to me on this. I’ll try your suggestion and let you know how I make out. I have been thinking about joining NAPP for some time. When I registered my Intuos tablet, they had a special offer to get the membership for the regular price of $99 but with a bunch of training DVD’s. Is NAPP a better resource than say a membership at Lynda.com? I also have a free 30 day trial with them that I have yet to use. Let me know and thanks so much for the personal help and such a great website!

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  10. jeff says:
    December 2, 2007 at 11:39 am

    Roger,
    NAPP and Lynda.Com are really two different animals. Lynda is all about training, but not specific to Photoshop. NAPP is 100% Photoshop related. There are user galleries, user forums, the new HELP 2.0 system that is full of 60 sec. help clips, huge discounts from around the photography and imaging world, and a lot more. It really is the best resource around for users of Photoshop. Plus they have training DVD’s too, just like Lynda. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

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  11. Roger Tregelles says:
    December 2, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    Jeff,

    Thanks so much for the quick reply and answers. I had joined Photoshop User Elements over two years ago (before getting CS2 and then CS3) and I know that they all spoke highly of NAPP over there (some of the folks belonging to both). I think I’ll join NAPP tonight as an early anniversary present (12/12) as I also want to go to seminars in NYC next year too as a member and get the discount. I hope to meet you and Scott someday at one of these. Thanks again for all of your help and keep up the great work you do here! I greatly appreciate it. :-)

    Roger

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  12. Jason says:
    July 31, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Now this is an outstanding conversion!

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